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Text Posts and Media

May 5th, 2010 by nick
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Before getting into the more enticing features we’ve included, I thought it best to cover off a couple of the “basics” first. Namely, text posts and media (photo and video). But, first I want to share a few icons. These are 3 of the icons that make up part our main navigation bar, something that I think is really great to use and I hope that when you get a chance to use the site you will agree. As I discuss what I’m calling “features” (maybe not the best terminology and not what we would call it internally, but still appropriate I think) I’ll include the corresponding icons until we have the full nav bar.

Text posts are simple and don’t need much explanation, but still form the basis for a large part of the community interaction. Given that there tends to be either short “status update” style text posts or longer form posts, we approached it from those two angles.

When you login you’ll find the main home page and on this page, like everywhere within the site, there is an area at the top where you can take action. By default, you’ll be ready to let the community know what you’re up to with a short text post, perhaps something important like “OMG, did you hear that Tom Cruise crashed his Desmo?!”. If you’ve got more to share, hopefully not about Tom Cruise, then a longer post is in order and these posts take on a form similar to a blog or forum post with the ability to add a title and a body. The long form posts can also contain other elements too, not just text, so the skies pretty much the limit for what you decide to use them for.

What would a motorcycle site be without photos and videos of bikes? I don’t ever want to find out. We’ve got the obligatory photo upload capabilities and while we have explored providing video uploading as well, we are holding off on that one for the time being, but we think everyone will be happy enough with the video embedding tool we’re including instead.

The photo upload process is, like you’ll come to expect from the whole site, thoughtfully designed to be quick and simple to get done what you want to get done. You can upload one or many photos at once, place them in specific albums and add titles / captions. The video embed process is similar, only instead of uploading from your computer you are adding a link to a video hosted on any of the popular services such as YouTube and Vimeo. Once photos or videos are added, other users can comment on them and make use of them in other posts within the site.

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Yes, we are social

April 30th, 2010 by nick
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One of our main goals with eatsleepride has always been to make the user experience simple and intuitive across the whole site, without sacrificing functionality. We don’t want the site to get in the way when creating, sharing and commenting on content and hope to ultimately foster an environment where users want to contribute enough to make the community worthwhile for everyone.

Another goal is to ensure that as a user you feel like you are interacting in the right way, whatever the “right way” means to you. We anticipate users who are fervent contributors, posting as quick as they can type and connecting with as many different people as they can. At the other end of the spectrum will be those who are casual contributors, more of a spectator and only interested in friending people they actually ride with.

So, in the true spirit of web 2.0 / social networks, we set out to build a platform for participation that doesn’t exist for motorcyclists today. When we launch in the coming months (maybe we’re close enough to start counting in weeks now?) you’ll be able to create a profile that tells us enough about you to help us show you appropriate content within the site. You’ll be able to find like-minded riders and connect with them, create a group that’s focused on whatever you want and invite people to join it. You’ll have a feed of current activity within the site that can be filtered in various ways to ensure you only see what you want to see and you can easily add your own comments to the ongoing discussions or start an entirely new discussion from anything that grabs your attention. This is really only scratching the surface as there is much more to the site, but the same concept runs throughout: you make the decisions on how you interact with the community and how the community interacts with you, we are just providing the tools to make it happen and (hopefully) make it useful.

Next post I’ll start getting into specific features.

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A new beginning

April 22nd, 2010 by nick
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If you’ve been watching this space at all, you’ll know that we’ve only touched on a few aspects of the new site, any discussions have been somewhat vague and updates less than regular. However, with a target launch date now set (more on this later, it is soon btw) we have decided that it’s finally time to share more about what’s to come. So, from now on, at least once a week, we will be sharing details on the features and methods behind the new site as well as some other exciting things we’re working on for eatsleepride. Also, we’re always open to any and all discussion, so if you’ve got ideas, questions or comments please feel free to add them to this blog, or get in touch by other means.

Starting point: If this is the first you’re reading about eatsleepride (you can call it ESR for short if you’re so inclined), I’d suggest a few previous posts would be a great place to begin.

1. A good introduction to the beginnings of ESR: HERE

2. What makes a good motorcycle site? This post touches on some of the things we’ve been considering while creating ESR (this topic has been a constant thread throughout our internal discussions and will probably never stop): HERE

3. There’s facebook and there’s Twitter, but what’s the best social networking model? We’ve spent countless hours exploring this and in the end, we did manage to make some decisions on which path to take eatsleepride down: HERE

4. Finally, some branding talk. Don’t be scared, branding is your friend and doesn’t always mean corporate propaganda: HERE

Hopefully you’ve now got a reasonable idea about what direction we’re taking eatsleepride in. We’ve spent longer (much, much longer) getting to this point than we originally planned, but along the way we’ve managed to truly refine what you’ll finally see when we switch off what you’re looking at now and switch on something that we hope will be embraced by the motorcycle community.

Next up: I’ll be touching on some of the “social” aspects of eatsleepride.

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The new bike and using the Go-Pro camera

January 7th, 2010 by Alex
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After a good nights sleep last night, I’ve just got my first real look at the bike – A Honda CGL125. It’s in great shape. It turns out it was left behind as a “payment” to my host by a long term guest who’d run out of money. It’s spent the past week or two in the shop being fixed up, but aside from a small puddle under the side stand which my host swears is water, it’s in great condition.

Now for the breakdown. It’s a 125 single, so I don’t anticipate winning any races on it, even against the burro’s. It’s drum brakes, both front and rear and has banded and very skinny front tires. Given there’s about 4km of off-roading between here and the main road, this could all end in tears. It also has a heel plate on the shift, which makes me think it might be one of those horrible cyclical gearboxes, though again I’m told not. I guess I will find out soon.

To capture this monumental occasion, I’ve also placed my Go-Pro camera on the bike. The obvious place to mount it is the bars, but having got the grab bag of mounts, i expected more options. I guess in part it’s not so easy as the “cross” bar is so skinny and the rest of the bars have their optimal points hampered with the switch gear. The location of the tightening bolts is also tricky and takes a little fettling. However, it’s on their now and looks to be reasonably sturdy. Footage, as well as other impressions, will follow shortly.

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Travelling to ride

January 5th, 2010 by Alex
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Just a short update this time. I am just finishing my packing to go to Mexico and I was just struck by how much easier it is compared to my last trip going riding.

Granted, the last one was a day’s riding a Ducati Multistrada in Calgary in early June. However, it was cold so I ended up taking my Joe Rocket jacket and pants, thermals, wind layer, Arai helmet, two pairs of gloves (wet weather and GP gauntlets) and both clear and tinted visor and yet I was still frozen.

This time, I am packing for three days riding a Honda 125 in Mexico. Granted, it’s about 23C where I am going but all I am taking is a pair of summer weight gloves, some cheap shades and a different pair of sneakers. Odd, but I’m normally at ATGATT rider (all the gear, all the time) and yet this doesn’t phase me. Maybe it’s the fact its -20 today and I just need a two wheel fix, or maybe it’s that I rode there last year the same way and found it safe.

OK, it’s a 125 so I doubt i will be going as fast as in Calgary. To be honest, on the bike I am riding, 50MpH is going to be a stretch but as you will soon see from the photos and (hopefully) videos, the smile on my face may well be much wider.

Roll on Thursday and the hills North of Mexico City/D.F.

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What is the best social networking model?

January 5th, 2010 by Alex
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One of the biggest issues for any website these days is how to deal with Social Networking. We at eatsleepride believe unabashedly that you can’t get by without being a social site and thus it’s a central question to us.

At this time, there are two main models: Facebook, where friend relationships must be mutual and Twitter where relationships are one way only. With the latter, you can of course follow someone who is following you and make it a mutual relationship and a lot of people do just that. To me, the difference is more profound. On facebook, most of the time you are keeping up with and communicating directly with friends on a 1:1 basis. Occasionally, it’s 1 to many but only very occasionally. With Twitter, the medium is more broadcast than friend oriented.

So, what are we doing at eatsleepride.com? As I think we explained, we are trying to be “everything for every biker” and we do believe we can deliver on that model. Part of that secret sauce is going to be in the way we build Facebook like feeds, tailored to you and your riding but also leverage a Twitter style friend model to allow you to discover and consume new and interesting ideas. If you choose to make your relationships mutual, you’ll effectively have a Facebook for your biking (and yes, we want to implement cross-posting at some point very soon). On the other hand, if you don’t follow others, you can use it as a richer Twitter style app (again, we do want to implement cross posting so you don’t have to manage multiple profiles).

Why this fence-sitting? Both Nick and I have been long time Facebook and Twitter users and have found limitations in both. Twitter is great but it’s hard to maintain a history. That and often 140 chars is just too little. Facebook is perfect for seeing what your old high-school friends are up to, which is great and all, but if you’d really wanted to know, you’d probably still be calling them. Other than that, it’s lack of focus lends itself to being little more than an amusing way to kill some time. As a result, we’ve all but stopped using Facebook and as you may have seen, my Twitter feed (twitter.com/EatSleepRide) is not as frequently updated as it once was.

Of course, there are a raft of other features we plan on implementing that make this site more than just another Facebook or Twitter clone and all of them are relevant to your biking needs. I’ll write about them a little more next time.

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What makes a good motorcycle site?

December 21st, 2009 by Alex
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As you may know, this is a question we’ve been working on for a while now. Almost two years in fact.

We started with the somewhat paradoxical notion that motorcycling is a social activity. Sure, you might go out for a ride on your own and maybe your bike is a monoposto and not a biposto but along the way, you might wave at some other bikers. In your backpack or pannier is quite probably a magazine to which the first page you turn is the letters. When you stop, you park next to other motorcycles, if there are any, not just because it’s a more courteous use of limited parking space but because you like the pipes on the machine next to you and you wouldn’t mind exchanging a word or two with it’s owner. Perhaps you just rode to the store to pick up a few parts but spent an hour talking to the sales guy about next years Harley range or how MotoGP2 may or may not be the next great racing series.

In short, if we motorcyclists aren’t riding we love to do the next best thing, which is talking to other bikers or daydreaming about our next bike or customization project. But this isn’t the surprising part.

What was surprising to us, at least when we thought about it, is that motorcyclists aren’t as tribal as we thought or, at least, are lead to believe. If you look at the current offerings on the web, they tend to focus narrowly on one type or riding or a specific brand. I’ve covered about 15,000kms this past year and of all the riding groups I’ve taken part in or observed, I think I can count on one hand the number of homogenous groups I’ve seen – It’s been vintage Indians out with R1200GS, complete with aluminum panniers (the BMW that is, though I’d love to see an Indian similarly kitted out), Harleys with Sportsbikes – assless chaps mixing with one piece leathers – and so-on.

Most of the magazines now also talk about the blurring of the lines between machines. Out and out sportbike riders are apparently discovering supermoto and even off-road as a way of improving control and getting kicks at more street legal speeds. I even read one review by an (i think) R1 owner who couldn’t stop gushing about how great a Victory motorcycle was, especially in the corners. That’s not to say I don’t believe it, but can you imagine reading something like that a few years ago? Much less anyone saying it out loud in public?

Because there is no “neutral” ground, there’s no place to go to really discuss those issues that affect all of us in a way that could make a difference. Loud pipe laws and lane-splitting legislation to name but two can affect every kind of motorcycle riding, but if we only discuss it in our pre-existing enclaves, how can we organize and be heard?

Of course, that’s not to say that on occasion, you don’t just want to talk about the best place to find carbon or some chrome to add to your ride. We all, after all, identify strongly with our machine. That’s a large part of why we ride.

And this is the conclusion we came to. We need to be all of the above. We need to create a platform that is capable of permitting users to talk with other users but also brings them new ideas and new concepts (it’s a large part of why you buy and read all those magazines). It also has to permit you to focus on your style of riding and your favourite brand(s) and machines but also ensure you’re part of the greater brotherhood of motorcycling. In short, we have to be most things to most people.

Oh, and we also decided we didn’t want to use outdated technologies. While forums might be great, they also don’t scale well and usually intimidate new users. There’ll also be no scrolling marquees here, no garishly colored links or layouts that came straight out of Microsoft Front Page. That’s not to say sites that look like that are bad, it’s just that we can do better.

And we think we have.

I’ll talk about the actual components another time but for now, I’ll say that we will be fully web 2.0 compatible. We’ll permit you to interact with any group of riders you want to and find information very easily. The information you see, by default, will be tailored to you based on where you are, what you ride and the friends you choose. We will be about all bikers and for all bikers, from Vespa to Victory, dirt to pavement to trackdays.

But most of all, we do want this to be your site, so please tell us what you want to see.

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Does this logo make my butt look fat?

December 18th, 2009 by nick
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I consider myself a fairly design conscious person. I’m constantly thinking about the design process behind everything that’s around me, whether it’s a nice set of machined rearsets for my Ducati 749 or a t-shirt I’m about to slip over my head, what were the designers intentions and did they succeed? Alex and I, along with the rest of the team involved, have spent countless hours on the design of what will become eatsleepride.com, considering every single interaction and what it will mean to the overall experience for each user. From the moment someone arrives, what do they see, what do they feel and what are they going to do next? Their first taste of eatsleepride will come through our branding.

The process of branding eatsleepride has been challenging, but also great fun. The name itself was our first hurdle to clear. We went through lists and lists of names, until one day Alex excitedly said, “I think I’ve got it and the .com is actually available” (being a web based community, there was no question we needed a good URL, a real challenge these days). Eat Sleep Ride had a nice ring to it we thought, but more importantly we felt as though it was meaningful. These 3 words together signify a passion and devotion, a certain feeling that all bikers get when you just can’t imagine your life without motorcycles. The longer we worked with the name, the more we embraced it and there has never since been a question if we chose the right one.

Every great name needs a great logo, which brings me to the main reason for this post. While we’ve had a working logo for a while now, it was never intended to be a final design and was just something to use until we had a clearer sense of the brand. We recognize that one of our main challenges with eatsleepride is to remain “motorcycle agnostic”. We want to be a place for all motorcyclists regardless of whether you ride a hard tail custom chopper or are busy building a 75 foot freestyle ramp in your backyard, but let’s face it, there is a big difference between your average Harley rider and your average FMX rider… well, other than maybe we can all agree that tattoos should be part of the uniform. So, we had to avoid having any motorcycle images (what type of bike would we use?), we had to avoid designs that might fit with one crowd but not the other and we had to avoid the major manufacturer colour combinations.

We’re under no illusions that we will ever have a logo that everyone will like, but we hope it’s at least something that everyone can get on with. I’ll stop rambling now and just present the evolution of the logo:

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My personal guide as to whether or not the new logo is good enough is to ask myself honestly, if I weren’t connected with this company would I wear a shirt with the logo on it? I answered, yes.

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Welcome to (y)our site

December 7th, 2009 by The Garage
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This has been a long time coming.

I think Nick and I first talked about the concept almost two years ago. As both avid motorcyclists and technology people, we were somewhat disappointed with the current state of motorcycling on the web. Many sites look like they should have been retired in 2001. Many of them had so few posts, they looked like they were. The most trafficked ones were forums. Now, I don’t know about you, but I find that while forums are OK for having a shouting match, but they’re not so useful for finding stuff out. Well, not always. And they also don’t scale well.

Then there are the sites driven by manufacturers – Harley Davidson is a good example. Nice modern layout, some good ideas. Ultimately, the focus is too narrow. Sure, it’s nice for Harley riders to interact with others, but are they the only people they want to talk with? The mixed riding groups I see on the road suggest otherwise.

On the other side of web, we have Facebook and Twitter – Facebook is all but useless for anything but seeing what ex-school friends are up to (and it’s rarely anything interesting). We have been using Twitter for a while now (@nickESR and @EatSleepRide for Nick and I respectively) and we like it. But it’s also full of noise and a lot of irrelevancy.  In short, these social networking behemoths are a long way from perfect.

So, we had the idea to build something better. It started as a feeling, that we knew something better could be done. You can call that hubris if you like, but they do say all entrepreneurs are egomaniacs.

Our first attempt was built using Drupal about a year ago now. We sat down and spent ages thinking about what we wanted to do. We even had some good ideas. Unfortunately, when we implemented them in Drupal, it didn’t work so well. It was difficult to customize and for the amount of work we wanted it to do, we needed about 60 modules. That’s a lot.

Then the weather turned nice and we went motorcycling for weeks at a time.

But now we have returned and revived those ideas and are fully committed to the concept. It’s currently undergoing final design and we will be starting the coding of the UI in the coming weeks.

The reality is however, that this is not a site for me or Nick. It’s a site for you and that’s the point of this blog. Over the coming weeks, we want to share the features we think are important with you and ask what you think. We need your feedback to ensure this is all going to work the way we all want it to. So, please check back soon and we’ll have some new updates for you, but in the meantime we’d love to hear your left-field ideas on what you would want in a motorcycling web site.

On a final note, don’t get me started on what is wrong with motorcycling on TV. Or perhaps I should leave that for another day…

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Parking and Motorcycles

August 24th, 2009 by Alex
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In a lot of countries, at least in Summer, motorcycles clearly form a better mode of transport than cars. For starters, they are usually more fuel efficient and they take significantly less space on the road. Sure, that SUV does have a more comfy leather seat and at least three or four cup holders but it was designed to carry more than just a hockey mom on her cellphone or an overweight businessman cramming down donuts and coffee. For the same space, you could get four bikes on the road and cause considerably less damage to the tarmac. Sure, a supplemental motorcycle would be expensive, but what about scooters for those not so interested in the most fun vehicle imaginable? They’re slower, sure but only slightly less fun and pretty cheap. So, why don’t local authorities do more to encourage bikes?

Partly, I think the image is to blame. Most sportsbike riders cut lanes like they’re trying to get away from Valentino Rossi. Many of the cruiser riders like to ride around town with the loudest pipes possible, preferably ripping the throttle at every stoplight in a bid to make passing babies cry. And I’ve seen dual sport riders who swear blind there’s nothing they can do to keep the front wheel down every time they wind the throttle. I know for everyone that falls into these categories and more, there are at least fifty riders who do everything by the book but be honest, which do you think people remember?

In our defence, riding around any town is not a relaxing thing to do. The sportsbike guys cut lanes to avoid the terrible road surface and bad drivers. Loud pipes make those idiots on cellphones (which I might add is now against the law in Ontario but is not enforced to the point where I regularly see cops driving patrol cars using them) hear us because we know they aren’t looking. I guess I still can’t justify the dual-sport wheelie crowd but I am working on it. For now, let’s just say it impresses bored looking kids on school buses and is thus a public service

Hell, even the testing centers are no longer down-town. You want to learn to ride in this province and your test is likely in Vaughan, all the way up the highway.

Parking is, however, the subject of my rant today. Unlike many major cities, Toronto is at least somewhat progressive in this regard. Motorcycles are allowed to use on-street paid parking for free. It makes getting around town that much cheaper. However, many places you want to go don’t have any spaces, so you wind up circling anyway. Maybe for every fifty parking spots, or at least at the end of the block, they should have designated motorcycle parking?

This is good balance too, because unlike the on-street parking, most parking lots in the city either don’t want to let you in or make you pay full price. Again, why not make them provide designated parking spaces and enforce maximum rates? Say, no more than 40% of the cost of a single car are you can fit at least three or four bikes in a single spot if it’s accessible side-on. Oh, and everywhere that uses those barriers to prevent you getting in and out should be made to ensure they realize bikes are there. it’s only a matter of time before I am ticketed for riding on the sidewalk as there is no other way out of a lot.

I realized how bad this parking situation was a while back when I was ticketed at a municipal parking lot. It was a packed evening and rather than take up the one free space there was, I decided to park side on, between two other cars, giving each ample space. When I returned to the bike a short while later, there was a $105 fixed penalty notice under the seat. The charge was failing to park in a non-designated area. I was upset. There were no marked bays in this parking lot, nor was there a no-parking notice like on the other side of the lot. I decided to fight it.

Just under a year later, I got my court date. I turned up, photos in hand, only to be told that if I plead guilty the fine would be $30. I said no. I was in the right here. I got to talk to the traffic officer beforehand who said that it all didn’t matter. I was parked where I shouldn’t have been and even though there weren’t any signs, it was all “obvious” as it a narrower part of the lot. She also conceded that as I was on a bike, I wasn’t really blocking anything but that it could have prevented a firetruck from entering should it have needed to even though it would also then have no chance of leaving again. Best of all, she also told me that she’d been down there this weekend, handing out tickets up the wazoo. In other words, even though it’s a known issue and putting up a simple sign would cost no more than a few hundred dollars, the City of Toronto likes using parking as a way of taxing visitors to Cherry Beach and other areas of the city.

Confident, I sat there as the judge explained the charges and court proceedings to the woman in front of me. It doesn’t actually matter, apparently, if I intended to park where I was. Signed or not, all that matters was that I was there. Damn. I looked at my own photos and quickly realized they proved the prosecutions case, not mine.

Given another opportunity, I talked to the prosecutor and got him down to $20 for the fine and happily plead guilty, taking thirty days to pay. I’d estimate it cost the city at least five times that to prosecute and all because they don’t want to be a little more bike-friendly.

On a related note, I also realized how those paralegal services, such as X-Copper work. They do the same thing. You check not-guilty and give them power of attorney to plead on your behalf. They then turn up in court at the appointed time and change your plea to guilty, taking the greatly diminished fine (and your fees). So, next time you get any form of speeding/parking/stunting charge /etc, you’re more than likely doing this yourself. Of course, before you take this as legal advice, please realize that I am not a lawyer and you’re on your own. From what I’ve seen though, it’s likely to cost you a lot less than the fine says…

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